ORLANDO -- A new phone conversation between Casey Anthony and her brother, Lee, released Monday has shed some new light on the search for an elusive babysitter Casey said has her missing 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.
The following is a transcript of the conversation:
Lee Anthony: Hey, Casey. Are you there?
Casey Anthony: Hey. Yeah, I'm here.
Lee: Sorry, my cell phone reception is terrible.
Casey: It sucks at the house. I know.
Lee: I still want you to be able to know that you can -- you can call me, and I'll try to, you know, get as much out there as I can before anything would ever die. It's not, like, a situation, but, you know, what can we do? You know?
Casey: Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Lee: Um, so you understand what I was trying to say for that -- that you know you can reach out to them?
Casey: Yes.
Lee: And, you know they -- you know, I know that you said that when we did visitation, and you know, I want you to know that you don't have to, necessarily, have to put everything through your attorney if you feel like you wanted to speak to them about anything at all.
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: You can still request that he be there, but you don't, he doesn't have to, and you don't have to do that through him.
Casey: Oh, I know.
Lee: OK.
Casey: That was something we had talked about yesterday, actually.
Lee: OK, good. Um, do you plan on speaking with, you know, any of those guys at all?
Casey: We're going to set up a meeting for, uh, Monday.
Lee: OK.
Casey: Um, Jose [Baez, Casey's lawyer] was going to, you know, think about stuff, how we were going to set things up over the weekend. He was going to be here with me when we bring them in -- um, you know, and as far as what I answer, how I answer, you know, how all of that goes down, he was going to figure that out this weekend. He was actually going to come up either today or tomorrow, and bring, like, a couple of the videos, I guess, for me to watch from some of the news stuff that's been going on, I guess some of the talk shows.
Lee: Hmm, yeah.
Casey: Just to try to update me on stuff. Plus, he wanted me to get a good laugh, so.
Lee: Well, here's the thing: Don't put too much stock and faith into anything the media is putting out there, 'cause you got to understand that --
Casey: Oh, I know.
Lee: They get information, they speculate on information, and then, you know, they put something out there so they can fill their -- their clips.
Casey: Oh, I know. I actually caught a little bit of it. I mean, I only got to see maybe an eighth of the TV, but I could see the pictures and stuff that were coming up last night.
Lee: Yeah.
Casey: Um, I just caught a little bit of that, you know, between the 10 and 11:00 news, so.
Lee: Here's an FYI for you, so you can conduct yourself accordingly.
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: Everything is public record, including this phone call --
Casey: Mm-hmm.
Lee: Including, um, the visitation videos --
Casey: Yes.
Lee: All that stuff is going to end up being released at some point.
Casey: Oh, I know it is.
Lee: I had no knowledge of that whatsoever.
Casey: Jose told me that yesterday.
Lee: He told me that after we got on -- that we did that, so.
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: Um, there's obviously some things that I may have asked in -- that I would have asked in a different way
Casey: Yes, absolutely.
Lee: And I don't want you to, you know, feel for any reason that, you know, we're not on your side about anything, 'cause we are about everything. We're completely behind you, completely behind you. Um, our entire focus, all our days, every second of every day is consumed with "What can we do to find Caylee?"
Casey: Yes. Oh, absolutely.
Lee: So, is there anything? I know we had spoken before, and you understand how all this works now, but -- um, do you have anything that you can, you know, tell me, you know, that would help? Um, you know?
Casey: There's nothing I can think of at the moment. Um, I'm going to actually try to get something together, you know, today, so I can write a couple letters, um --
Lee: OK.
Casey: To the family. I'm even going to get with [inaudible] and stuff, to see if you guys get that directly -- um, but still put out my own, specific -- so if anything happens, if there's any lapse, you still get what I'm trying to put across, to you.
Lee: Right, and just remember that if you give it to the attorney, he can choose whether or not to --
Casey: He can read it, he could choose whether or not -- so he can fix that, which is why he'll do a secondary letter.
Lee: Perfect.
Casey: Just to make sure that it's direct.
Lee: Perfect. That would be -- I would encourage that 110 percent. So, um, is there anything specific? I know you're going to meet with -- um, you know, the investigators and everything, but you know, is there anything, specifically the details, that you want to clarify to me now, so when I'm following up on my own leads and my own information -- putting this stuff together -- you know, that I can start working on it now?
Casey: Um, at the moment there's nothing specific or nothing that, you know, should probably be said here. Um, again, I'll put something together before I see Jose, or when I see Jose, and, you know, make sure I have something also to put out.
Lee: Right.
Casey: So that we can get everything.
Lee: OK, and just remember: When you get to talk to those guys -- um, you know, you mention that, you know, you're going to have your prep and everything with Jose.
Casey: Mmhmm.
Lee: But remember: Truth don't hurt.
Casey: Oh, I know it doesn't.
Lee: So, you know --
Casey: But in the meantime, things that I have told them, again, were misconstrued and not used to their benefit. I gave them the same resources that I gave you, and you found out 100 more things than they did.
Lee: Right.
Casey: And they were given the same information.
Lee: Right.
Casey: So it's just about the approach, I guess, in using the resources to their full extent.
Lee: Right.
Casey: I'm, again, everybody's biggest resource. You've said that. Jose has said that. Mom and Dad have said that.
Lee: Right, but at the same time, we still -- we just need to figure out how we can be clear on, on whatever that we're giving to them. So even if we have to, you know, speak, um, you know very direct, or we have to -- you know, we can't really speak in generalities with them, with anybody, is what I'm finding out.
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: 'Cause, you know, or if we tell them, "I'm not completely sure on a spelling, or I'm not completely sure on this or that."
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: They take everything exactly up front, to the 'T,' exactly how you provide it.
Casey: Yeah.
Lee: So, you know, if it's off at all, they don't even think to look in any other areas, is what --
Casey: That's why I gave them things multiple times. Each officer, I gave the same information at least two or three times. I've done the same thing with you, the same thing with Mom, the same thing with Jose. Everyone has the same information, same spelling, same names. I mean, none of that has altered because, that's it.
Lee: Right. What do you think -- uh, where do you think -- you think Caylee's OK right now?
Casey: My gut feeling? As mom asked me yesterday, and even Jose asked me last night, the psychologist asked me this morning that I met with through the court. Um, in my gut, she's still OK, and it still feels like she's, she's close to home.
Lee: OK.
Casey: So, I mean, that's still my, my best feeling at the moment. Again, if that changes, obviously I'm going to reach out and say something immediately, but I know Mom will understand this better than anyone that there's that type of bond that you have with your kids.
Lee: Right.
Casey: And it's, you know, it's unexplainable. Absolutely.
Lee: Did you speak with Caylee over the phone at any time?
Casey: I did one time, yes, and that was actually the day that Mom had called the police.
Lee: OK, do you remember what time you spoke to her?
Casey: Around noon? It was through a private call.
Lee then gets Casey's cell phone account information from her.
Lee: I know, did you ever have, or did you ever call, uh, the babysitter on your cell phone, or ever receive a call from the babysitter on your cell phone number?
Casey: Um, I most definitely did.
Lee: Can you give me any day or anything, whenever you think may have received that?
Casey: Any specific day, um -- God, a lot of the times, it was through text messages, so the number would show up even on that.
Lee: OK.
Casey: Um, I can't think of any specifics. I mean, my days are all thrown together. At least I know what the day is today, but as far as stuff from the last couple of months, I have -- I have no exact, you know, time or date. If I can think of something.
Lee: Do you remember, do you remember an area code?
Casey: Um, the last number that she called me from was a 954 number, which I believe is a Fort Lauderdale number. I know because Amy's is also the similar area code.
Lee: Right.
Casey: She has also called me from a 407 number, from a 321 number -- there's been different numbers, different times. Not necessarily on different days, but it just depended on the number that she had at the time.
Lee: OK. Most recently, can you remember the number that, you know, you would have seen?
Casey: The last number that she had called me from that wasn't, uh, the private listing, or that didn't show up "private cell" or "private call," was 954.
Lee: OK. Um, but even like a private cell or a private number from the most recent one that you can remember, can you remember, like, what month or anything like that that they were in?
Casey: Um, the last private call that I received was on the 15th, I believe. That was the day that Mom made that call.
Lee: Right.
Casey: And I think that was the last one that I had gotten. I mean as far as my knowing someone on the phone when I last had it.
Lee: Right, and do you remember what area code, or any part of that?
Casey: That was the number that came up. It just said "private cell," or "private call." I can't remember which one.
Lee: OK.
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